How can we trust your staff Luigi?

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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/08 18:51:31
I want an explanation as to why nobody saw this coming.

Luigi, I am 99.9% sure you knew KGEvans had the following:

-HDD
-ADD
-OCD
-Bipolar
-Much more...

His behaviour was getting more disturbing daily, he even said he was suicidal at one point. He was clearly ill.

We saw him more stressed out, not helping as much, more inactive and having constant mood swings.

And now this.

I have completely lost trust in the staffing system, I didn't see KGEvans doing what he did coming, I never thought he was going to do that, so how do we know that someone else might not do it? But more serious? Maybe something so bad that we cant repair it?

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MONKEYPAWNED
Date sent: 2015/05/08 19:49:25
Wowman you cant go around causing panic among the players with this incident. If that is the case how do we trust other players? After one of them griefs us? On an individual bases ... same as always...Its a shame we had this hit the server but its also a wake up for them too i'm pretty sure of that...I for one did like him and think he just had enough and wanted out....This was his sure fire way of getting out. I honestly don't know...I wish him well and hope you find closure in this situation.
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Vulturboy
Date sent: 2015/05/08 21:19:21
Wowman, if you don't like the current server staff, please make a topic under suggestions listing who you would like to see as staff. If I disagree I will explain my reasoning. Yes, there are inactive staff members that need to be demoted and players that deserve to be promoted. But unless you state who you want to be staff and why, quit your whining.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/08 21:35:45
Vultur I am sick of your BS. Don't talk to me anymore, don't comment on my posts, your holding a grudge. Get lost.
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Vulturboy
Date sent: 2015/05/08 22:39:54
Well then I might as well leave the forums considering most of the posts are YOUR SPAM.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/09 06:27:15
And Vultur, I think you have misunderstood me.

I don't dislike any staff member of this server in a personal way, as you know the only one I think that should be demoted it Blueroon.

But with the recent evans, I mean events, It has show me and lots of other people not to trust anyone.

Tell me vultur, did you think KGEvans was going to grief the server and hack LEVEL127 tools? I didn't. That's the simple point I am making, I didn't see the most mature staff member logging on and griefing the server. I am worried.

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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2015/05/09 07:51:59
Well, to answer your question, I'm not a fortune teller and I can't predict the future. There's no telling what some people might do, esspecially people with illnesses such as Evans in this case. The best we can do is learn from the past to try and protect the future. I trust the server software and the CoreProtect plugin that is able to revert any damage done by griefing. Incidents like this are also the reason I am so cautious when promoting people to staff ranks. I trust the staff; if they breach that trust, they are demoted.

As you know, all the griefing KGEvans did was completely rolled back.
I doubt there would be any incident so bad that it wouldn't be able to be repaired. More importantly, I will always be dedicated to restoring the server for the players that rely on it for fun and enjoyment, no matter how hard times are.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/09 07:58:59
Thank you for your reply. I am satisfied that this wont happen again. Don't hire people with illnesses anymore, I have nothing against ill people, of course not, but this is the outcome.
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ARNJ
Date sent: 2015/05/12 03:44:57
KG grefed my heart has dropped well that goes to say that anyone can becom bad :/ you have no idea how sad I am he is gone
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/12 05:23:02
Your sad? He griefs the whole server, hacks and your sad?
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ARNJ
Date sent: 2015/05/13 21:14:09
Befor he you know bacame CRAZY he was my frend
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/14 06:37:44
He was ill ARNJ, seriously mentally ill.
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CaptainSpaceSheep
Date sent: 2015/05/14 09:53:21
I have personally spoken with KG.

He isnt mentally ill at the moment. He got himself banned purposely because of BlueRoon.
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ChipmonkHarry
Date sent: 2015/05/14 11:37:52
wowman. don't comment so badly if you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. from what i have seen you constantly have this negative attitude on the forum topics no matter the situation. KGEvans is not "mentally ill" as you put it, he is only unstable sometimes. this incident was not down to any illness, evans just wanted out and out forever. to his understanding he felt like he was not properly cared for by luigi and blue. his explanation to me was that blue constantly miss-treated him and luigi would only listen to blue when KG would raise the concern. if you think evans is "mentally ill" then in that case so am i for having mid-stage autism which effects my concentration levels and my anger management. if you want enemies (to my understanding lots of people already hate you for you poor judgment and innacuracy) then carry on the way you are. rant over.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/05/14 13:19:55
Nobody asked you anything. Thanks.
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ChipmonkHarry
Date sent: 2015/05/14 13:27:59
A* for the effort of the come-back
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Vulturboy
Date sent: 2015/05/14 13:35:59
If nobody asked Harry anything, then I'll just copy paste his statement considering I was asked earlier in the topic.

"wowman. don't comment so badly if you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. from what i have seen you constantly have this negative attitude on the forum topics no matter the situation. KGEvans is not "mentally ill" as you put it, he is only unstable sometimes. this incident was not down to any illness, evans just wanted out and out forever. to his understanding he felt like he was not properly cared for by luigi and blue. his explanation to me was that blue constantly miss-treated him and luigi would only listen to blue when KG would raise the concern. if you think evans is "mentally ill" then in that case so am i for having mid-stage autism which effects my concentration levels and my anger management. if you want enemies (to my understanding lots of people already hate you for you poor judgment and innacuracy) then carry on the way you are. rant over."

-ChipmonkHarry, 2015
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2015/05/14 14:22:54
Harry, I beg to differ.

The only indication Evans gave about feeling that way was when he told me:
"blueroon has been acting abusive. i will post the information in my ban apeal".

That was when blueroon had banned him. It was the first and only time Evans had notified me of any difficulty he was having with blueroon. I looked at his ban appeal and it seemed pretty straight forward: blue had banned him for repeatedly unjailing cookie_lips when blue had told him there was a good reason for her being in jail. He also knew that she should have been banned because I had told him that the day before. Therefore, there was no excuse for him to be unjailing her. In fact, if I had probably been responsible enough to login on my phone and ban her again myself the day before, none of it would have happened (though I was away somewhere and I thought that the staff members, esspecially KG, would be mature enough to not create a fuss over it).
There was nothing else Blueroon could have done to stop the fuss other than ban him for a few hours, no amount of reasoning worked.

With that said, clearly this was only a minor incident on Blue's part, emphasised by the fact KGEvans wasn't thinking straight to take into account the reasons behind what I had told him, as well as what Blueroon had told him, or completely ignored it altogether. Over the past few weeks it seemed like his health and state of mind had only been worsening; though I never expected an outcome such as this, with practically no indication. That's what instability is. Perhaps it was the increased stress of being staff, arguments or misunderstandings that lead to those sudden amplified emotions and the ultimate instability of him griefing.

But I'm not going to try and deduce anything further. I hope KGEvans is feeling much better now that he doesn't have to worry about the server and I wish him all the best in his future endeavors through life.
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ChipmonkHarry
Date sent: 2015/05/17 10:15:11
Luigi perhaps you think I am defending KGEvans for his actions. No not at all. I was a little pissed off by how wowman chose to use his vocabulary (like how he gets mad at people who improperly use their words againsed homosexuals). As me and Evans both have (a) similar illness(es) we relate very well and have discussed in the past how we can relate in situations (however i completely disagree with glen's last action in everyway immaginable). So as me and Evans are similar in SOME ways I sort of took it in offence like wowman was calling me 'mentally ill'.

When you went into the detail of the situation of you, blue, and Evans. Was actually useful and teaching, as it is now apparent that he was only giving his unfair side of the deal. Since Glen's ban from mush he hacked on the other server (we all know the server I am talking about) and was given ample amount of time for reasoning and he came out inconclusive and is now banned. I was not online at this time and I found out when he messaged me on the server forums. This is when once again he only gave his side of the story, in attempt to win me over onto his side. It is then when I asked iPlayerurt what happened and I discovered that once again he lied to me and tried to minipulate me in a way. Our friendship is currently no longer.

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