Why am i still here?

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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2017/06/08 19:36:43
Why do i still try? why do i still try, on a daily basis to help protect, assist, and promote a server which only makes me feel like shit?

i no longer get enjoyment from joining the server. I now look at the server as mostly just a hate-filled community.
What do we advertise our server as, luigi? don't we advertise ourselves as a welcoming community where we all get along and love each other? i'm going to have to call bullshit on that one.

Since 2015 i have Welcomed all players into my arms, I've greeted them and treated them as well as i could. I've taken on the community hundreds of times and done what i believed was right.
I remember when i was younger in my staffing days, i'd see a complaint on the forum and jump out my bed to help the player.
Server down? well you can bet on chip to get it back up as soon as he could.

remember all those times the server has gone to shit but then came back? i bet you always assumed it was Luigi, but who told Luigi about it all?

I've been through some horrible times here, my future life has been threatened, and i've lost everything before; because of this server.

Once, we lost all of our files because the server host moved us, and in the process they accidentally corrupt our files. luigi had no server left, there was literally nothing but a back-up that was a month old. luigi was just getting busy IRL and didn't have time for putting the server back together. So how is the server still here you ask? i poured my fucking heart out to luigi and pleaded for him to not give up. i asked him, "what will the community do? this is the server they come to for fun and to socialize", but more importantly then that, i told him just much this place meant to me. i told him how attached i was to this server, it's history, it's memories which i share here. i offered to be owner, i didnt care how much stress it might cause me, luigi even asked me if i was sure i could do it.
in honesty, i wasn't sure if i could, but i instantly told him i could. why would i do that exactly? no, not because i wanted owner, but because i couldn't afford to see this server go down forever.


I mentioned earlier that this server took everything from me, and i had to rebuild myself back up again. i had to rebuild my reputation.
Since I've rebuilt this server I've only experienced more shit, more fuckery to put up with. And i really shouldn't have to put up with this shit. Luigi himself admitted he's surprised i'm still here after what I've been through and continue to go through.

Luigi:
After all this time, it's worn me down. I'm not as good as i used to be. This server has eroded away the edge which i used to have. It's not a matter of "chip is a shit staff member" because i'm not. it's a matter of "this community broke him".


If this server doesn't improve then I'm afraid i need to leave. i am desperately trying to hold on, but i cant take this anymore. my life has been turned upside down since i joined.
Things need to improve, next time anyone fucks with me on the forum or in-game, i'm going to banish you.

for ages we have stuck to "they haven't directly broken a rule so we cant punish them" and i'm going to break that streak, because it has simply only caused me pain and allowed the server to continue to deteriorate and get even more toxic. From toxic people, more toxic people are stemmed.
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Rofel
Date sent: 2017/06/08 19:54:54
It's very bold that you're saying it as it is, and it very inspiring. I haven't been on the server for that long but I can already see that some members of the community are more disrespectful than others and some are just straight down rude.

And I know that when you are working hard on something and people just talk shit to you and don't appreciate your work, well, it doesn't really give you the motivation to keep going.

It's a shame that the server have come to this and I hope it improves. Becasue I would hate to see good people leave.

Hope you stay with us Chip!
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:02:11
I blame Asriel, he's an asshole.

I think we should all change, because the server really is toxic.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:06:31
Myself and some other staff have changed rule 15 as we feel the replacement is much more important:

"continued light toxic behavior results in a ban"
we acknowledge that punishments from this rule are very subjective, so before punishments are performed, other staff must agree also.


this is everyone's chance to redeem themselves. you wont be punished until you decide to be toxic again, and once you do you'll be punished for all your actions which we have now partially put behind us.
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:15:53
Not to sound rude, but Chip, doesn't arguing with and insulting players contribute to being toxic? I know most of the time they start it, but insulting them back is just as toxic as them starting it. So I guess you've broken this new rule as well.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:25:01
i agree puff, but i also said that in the post...

i've been worn down to the point of not giving a fuck about the toxic players, so i just react instead of ignore.
sorry
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:49:23
LOL bull fucking shit you help people, ive first hand seen people ask for your help and you ignore them, you're a dick not just to me but to other people, you dont give a fuck about anything about power, please do everyone a favor and leave
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2017/06/08 20:56:40
Back story to minoi's reply:

he changed his name and demanded that i unlock all his chests and give him his faction back.
of course i refused to do it, he wasnt polite and he broke a rule.
helping him would mean i condone username changing.
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/08 21:20:05
That honestly has nothing to do with my reply... and btw you just lied. What happned in that event was I asked you to disband my old faction after I changed my name so I could have my faction name, I didnt ask you to unlock my chests nor did I "demand" you to, and I didn't want my entire' "faction back". All I wanted was the faction name.

This right here is a prime example, He's a fucking liar, he just tells you bullshit to cover his ass up, please leave chip we dont like you
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Michael9999995
Date sent: 2017/06/08 21:33:33
Chip, I'm sorry that you have to deal with this shit on a daily basis, i truly am. And i realize how much this server means to you. Heck, i quit and i'm still on the forums because i love the server too.

But, I don't really think that this rule should go into effect. Not to make you mad or offend you in any way, I just don't think that this will help much. If we implement this rule, staff could easily abuse their rights. And many innocent players may leave/ get banned leading to a lower player amount. Idk what the solution is, but i'm not really sure if this is the answer.

Again, I did not mean to offend you in any way and I truly hope that you stay with the server. You are one of the most mature trustworthy members of this community and without you, chaos would rule the server. Trust me, you are extremely respected and a very important member of this server. Please stay :)
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elliedlm
Date sent: 2017/06/08 21:38:46
Minoi so "We" don't like chip? When exactly did you become the spokesperson for the server please tell me I'd love to know why they let an idiot that refuses to admit he's wrong plus that doesn't even play anymore speak for the server?
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/06/08 22:01:01
Chip and I have butted heads, and I kinda hated him at one point, but he apologized to me in game, not over message or anything when really I should have. Don't leave chip :(
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/08 22:24:49
hey now ellie lets not get to excited there
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PumpkinPiePhD
Date sent: 2017/06/09 03:11:41
Chip, I would like to say thank you for everyone who hasnt. Most people just think that it is a staff member's "job" to do what they do, and to an extent it is. But they are not here for any reason but that they care for the server and its players. This server is supposed to be a family: a place for love and support. I agree with what you say about the not breaking a rule idea. Rules should be vague enough that it gives the staff power to enforce it but specific enough to inform members of what they mean- but some things people just need to know as common sense.
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Sauasgeman
Date sent: 2017/06/09 03:13:41
Jesus murphy. I actually do not know what to say to this. Ive been on the server for a while and when I first joined Chip answered any question I had.
And it seems like you kind of let yourself go for this server chip. For your future life, I hope you step away from the server and get things sorted out. Once you get everything sorted, maybe come back, throw some banter, some shade, crack a cold one with the boys, and have a good time with no stress.
I really do not want to see this from anybody cause I actually have morals. I KNOW PEOPLE! I actually care about peoples personal life. I gave ellie shit ingame today cause thats my personality. If you dont like it, fite me.
But back to the topic.I do not want to see you like this, and i truley do not want to see you step away from the server. I believe that you and luigi are the backbone of this server. If you go, Luigi will eventually be crushed.
But your personal life is 1000x more important than an online game. You need to step away and get things sorted. I can not stress this enough! pls.

Everyone is going to be like "wtf!??! Sausage cares about Chip of all people??". Yeah, shocking. fite me if you dont like this side of me.

~Sauasgeman

PS: I really hope you make the right choice Chip. I don't want your life to be shit just because of a minecraft server.
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Miss_Awesome_2
Date sent: 2017/06/09 03:19:27
I guess we don't really realize how much we take for granted, so thank you for everything you have done.
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/06/09 03:39:34
Minoi, it was your responsibility to change your faction name before your username. Staff are not supposed to help you AT ALL when you change your name. He was making the right choice. You also are NEVER polite. So there's another reason why he shouldn't have.

No, we don't want Chip to leave minoi. The only people who don't are people who are too blind to see what he does like you and Asriel.
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Knightg17
Date sent: 2017/06/09 05:08:02
Honestly, I think you should take some time away. Let the rest of staff handle things for now. I've seen my fair share of toxic players and myself have been a toxic player. Once staff has handled the general majority of toxic players then you should make your way back. But once the "bigger" toxic players start to "die off" the amount of toxic players may decrease. If not then there may be something else that is causing the toxicness? I'm not an expert so I wouldn't completely consider what I said. But I don't want you to get any worse. I make my opinion based on my view of your situation.
~Summer
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Asriel🍆
Date sent: 2017/06/10 00:21:39
"of course i refused to do it, he wasnt polite and he broke a rule.
helping him would mean i condone username changing."
- Chip

you guys are way too strict with the goddamn rule. update some plugins, or don't be a goddamn dick about something THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE GAME ITSELF. that's like nintendo saying we can't use metaknight in online smash because dealing with the complaints is too much.

if someone changes their username, give them their goddamn stuff back. it was theirs. they didn't change who they were, only their name. this is the only server i have ever seen to throw a hissyfit over username changes, as i've seen servers support them since the minute 1.8 came out. stop acting like you don't have a solution to this, and just let people change their usernames goddamnit.
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/06/10 03:21:12
Cause Asriel brought it up I'd like to know the reasoning behind that rule.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2017/06/10 07:15:20
I admire your overwhelming persistence Chip, truly, but if you got to the point where "you will react instead of ignore" then so shall I. I let more than half of the complaints or ban appeals go by, even though my friends complained or got banned. However if the Head Admin will also reaction instead of ignore, then so shall I.

Name change rule, the most stupid rule in minecraft history of rules. I have NOT seen any other server at all with this bullshit of a rule. Why you say? Simple, their plugins aren't from the stone age unlike ours.



And Summer, what you said makes sense, I am experienced and I say it makes sense. I could one of the most toxic when things are unjust, and after that good idea of yours I would not be surprised if chip and co ban me for a stupid reason. However if that happens, if I get banned for a pointless reason, 2 more 'toxic' players will come up asking why I got banned.
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2017/06/10 08:57:52
One of the rules on this server is rule 3: be nice to other players. Another one is rule 14: username changes are forbidden. These are the main core rules of the server, as given in the underlying rules in /rules: be respectful, be ethical, use common sense, username changes are forbidden.
I don't think we need rule 15 since that is just part of rule 3.

As for username changes, I've said this many times, if you want to read more in depth about it, search for some of my other replies on the forums relating to it. Usernames are unique identifiers for players in our minds, so it only makes sense for them to be unique in practice as well, otherwise people get confused about who is who. Mojang were idiots for implementing username changes in the first place, but now that we have to deal with them, we can do our best to prevent them with this rule.

A few years ago, I tried to undo them completely on the server. I tried to make the server always revert someone's username to the original one. Back then it was too complicated for me, however recently I've looked back into it and was now able to do it. It hasn't been implemented yet because of a few things, but if successful, there will be no need for the rule, since username changes will have absolutely no effect on the server. Even if you change your name, the server will still show your username as the old one.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2017/06/10 09:49:30
^ nailed it.
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/10 19:04:05
I disagree, it's your account, you should have the right to edit it in whatever way you choose as long as it's not hurting anyone. But we can't change our usernames because otherwise we won't know "who is who"? I guarantee you 50% of usernames are changed to allow them to have a fresh start and as if recreating their account. Not allowing us to change usernames is denying that opportunity. So with this logic, are we not allowed to log onto alts because that will also confuse people about "who is who". Why do you want to restrict people from starting fresh? And from other experiences, username changes haven't been an issue regarding identity.
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/06/10 19:52:27
I didn't know you were wones until you got banned :P
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Dragon
Date sent: 2017/06/10 22:27:50
G frickin g Chip. I hope this server changes for the better too. And if anyone is to doubt him about how much work he has done for this server, I know from personal experience that Chip has tried hard to help our community.
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Asriel🍆
Date sent: 2017/06/10 23:34:08
thanks luigi
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CaptainSpaceSheep
Date sent: 2017/06/11 00:15:54
ngl when I read the title I thought it was gonna be a meme but okkkkk
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SneakySquirtle
Date sent: 2017/06/14 00:00:22
Why am I still here?
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/06/15 20:45:02
*drops popcorn*

Hm oh well, it's that time of the month where you play the victim Chip?

So huh... what exactly did you rebuild? You know it takes literally a click of a button to generate a new map right? And you had already the plugins set up, even if you wanted to delete some data, you just do it and it re-generates new files on the start of the server. You see Chip, you might have done good stuff for the server, but do never say you hard worked for it, because you obviously don't know what it is.
Like seriously, "remember all those times the server has gone to shit but then came back? i bet you always assumed it was Luigi, but who told Luigi about it all?" among many other useless strings of text... real heroes don't ask for recognition. Like always, since people shit on you for your bad decisions, you try to defend yourself very clumsy.

And since we're at it, I don't understand why make everything public? Like you could've literally pmed Luigi, but no, address him on a forum thread just sounds way better -sarcasm. It gives a really bad view of the staff team to be honest, it seems to me you can't handle your shit, specially you Chip. Give the highest staff rank to a mentally unstable person, hooray!

"Things need to improve, next time anyone fucks with me on the forum or in-game, i'm going to banish you." that's how a dictatorship works. Good luck with that.

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You say your "future life" was threatened and that you've lost "everything" before because of this server which later on your thread, you imply it was the community. Well, I have to agree that such job can be time consuming and it can be really stressful, you need to organize your time and remember that there are more important things that managing a game's server. It's fine, I get it, I've been through it too, I'm just not coward enough to blame on others...
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/06/15 22:20:38
When someone gets banned so they take out their anger by criticizing a staff member.

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Xario1
Date sent: 2017/06/16 04:20:16
I don't blame you for feeling this way, Chip. You are right, this server isn't that great. And I will admit that I have not always thought of you as the best mod/admin, but you're probably much better than I used to think, I think. It's been a long time since I have actually been active in this community, so I don't remember what my opinions of some people used to be for sure, and if I don't remember those opinions, then you must have not been all that bad. But, no matter what I think or used to think, you have definitely always been an important part of this server and community, that is for sure.

Again, I don't blame you for not liking this community anymore. I mean, I'm ok with the community, since I mostly kept to myself and didn't involve myself in any of the drama, but it's understandable with how much drama there has been before. On of the reasons I'm not very active on here is becuase of how poorly Luigi used to run the server, and may still run the server poorly(I wouldn''t know since I'm not on much).
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/06/16 04:59:51
When someone is incompetent enough to become a staff member:
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I'm not even mad CK, not a little pussy who doesn't stand by his words like you. I did shit, I got punished for that, and to be honest I deserved it.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/16 07:11:26
@Ruben

"You say your "future life" was threatened and that you've lost "everything" before because of this server"

You have no idea what chip is on about. However this happend before you started playing but it could of destroyed chips futures and im not joking.

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