| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 15:59:16
Let me start by saying, the Mushroom Co. has burst with many players. So many of you have come across the player Wones. In my opinion (which is my opinion and players are more than able to disagree) I see Wones being a highly toxic player, and here is my evidence to support my claim:Rule #9 states "No constant toxicity! Will eventually result in ban". Let's also look at Rule #7 which states "No spamming or excessive caps". If any of you have played long enough while Wones has been on, you'll see several examples of excessive cap usage (seriously. A lot). You'll also see evidence of Wones disrespecting staff (few staff members in particular). So, what's the point of my post? I know the staff does the best they can, but some toxic players need to go, or act right and obey the rules. Me personally, I do care about the type of players on this server. I've been on for over 2 years (which isn't a lot, compared to some) and I hate when players consistently break rules, and nothing but a mute (or kick) would occur. So to end my post, I'd like to see Wones either straighten up his act or leave Mushroom Co. |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:05:20
If anyone would like picture evidence, I'll be happy to oblige. |
 wones9 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:13:52
I know isnt it so toxic how i reported a hacker? SO TOXIC |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:19:17
As I've mentioned in-game, I'll mention it again. Hopefully, you should be able to comprehend. As I've said, the incident with this "hacker" is not what I've been referring to, nor did I make it the base of my complaint. Your constant (meaning occurring multiple times) toxicity by abusing caps, disrespect to staff and other players. If you read all of my post, I didn't say "I want Wones to leave". I posted, "I'd like to see Wones either straighten up his act or leave". |
wones9 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:21:55
Calling sniff incompetent is disrespecting staff? |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:24:40
Some would see that as disrespectful (me included). |
 TastyDJ |
Date sent: 2018/08/13 16:28:00
Let me add that a few days ago he also tried to tpa me into lava to kill me but it wasnt very succesful so he was the only one who died.Id like to also add that staff knows how to do their job and shouldnt be told how to do it. he talked about how sniff is a bad staff member for the past 2 hrs even though, if it was that important to him he could just record him and not annoy the whole server about his problems with an "hacker" (the "HACKER" was online the whole time so id like to know why he didnt record him). He and sak constantly using caps and spamming , probably because they want so much attention, I wont even waste time and ill just take a message that they just sent : http://prntscr.com/ki4hfz or http://prntscr.com/ki4hzj or http://prntscr.com/ki4igh or http://prntscr.com/ki4k9r well u get it... i think everyone can see that he is constantly using caps, spamming and just looking for attention (I guess u can see it when you are online too) ... |
 Lapid_pope |
Date sent: 2018/08/14 22:25:10
I agree with topping and tasty Wones and sak needs to be more respectful or get out. He's "SO TOXIC" (why with the caps even in forms) that he's being rude to tasty in game. |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 02:29:52
I have decided to post my evidence against Wones. When you click the link below, you will see 16 snapshots, containing instances of Wones:-Excessive caps usage -Foul language -Disrespecting staff/players -Overall toxicity Now that you have seen my evidence, do with this, as you will: https://imgur.com/a/gmA0PSB |
 alpacafarm |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 02:44:29
you just made yourself look silly. saying shut up to a player is not toxicity and saying sniff cant do his job is closest thing to to toxicity of all those screenshots. Foul language is allowed as long as its not excessive, which none of those screenshots prove. If you didnt know, the reason caps would not be allowed is because it spams the chat. In those screenshots, however, the chat was not anywhere near spammed. You’re dismissed hun |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 02:55:57
That is your opinion, and I respect that, Alpaca. However, I understand cap usage is to express emotion. Another instance (which I did not get snapshotted) was when Spawn kept being caught on fire by a default. Wones excessively typed "FIRE!" and did, in fact, spam chat. I apologize for not being able to get that snapshotted. Foul language is allowed, yes. However, it seems (to me at least) Wones is one of the main ones (and in caps). And I don't quite believe I've made myself look "silly". I made a complaint and posted my evidence (16 total snapshots, so it hasn't been a one/ two-time thing. It's been reoccurring) to prove my case. As I've mentioned at least 3 times now: I have never said: "I want Wones to leave". There is no evidence to even suggest I have. I said, "I'd like for Wones to straighten his act, or leave". |
 luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 04:10:13
Sak is being way more toxic in those screenshots than wones. |
 MaxWreck |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 05:01:04
Just to let you know, we've had a quick discussion yesterday about this, we are aware of the situation and know that multiple players are annoyed by this.This is not under the radar, obviously. We'd like to find a solution that can lead to something positive, such as not banning active players if possible and keeping a healthy environment. We'll see how it goes. |
wones9 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 12:06:59
Would you really classify that as toxicity or just me being annoying? If you are annoyed by it so much why don't you ignore me? And yes I did call out sniff for not doing his job properly and im pretty sure staff are aware why I was so angry and rightfully so. I think this is a really petty complaint and I really didn't do anything with malicious intent in those pictures but ts rather me just having fun. To your luck, I won't be on nearly as much as I have school right now but I don't see why people can't just ignore me. I'm not insulting anyone (sniff is a different situation) and I'm not trying to make people angry, its just me being me.To defend Sak, I completely understand he uses a lot of caps and says questionalable things but he has no personal vendettas against anyone on the server. He's really an easy person to get along and if you have a problem with him you can just /ignore him, it's not that difficult. Again, I think this complaint is very petty and just out of pure spite because you don't like me and in most of those screenshots, I'm not being toxic as you claim but rather having fun. |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 13:22:22
My complaint, Wones, is long over-due. I have messaged other players, and all of them have agreed with me. As I’ve said numerous times now, I’ve requested for you to either straighten your act, or leave. If you can straighten your act, we’ll get along super well. If not, then not so much. In the screenshots, they prove exactly what I’ve been saying. I don’t quite believe my complaint is petty. If I just posted, “I hate Wones and I want him gone”, then yes. That would be petty (imo). Also, to respond to Max, thank you and staff for discussing it. It has seemed that this has been under the radar, but thank you for proving me wrong. |
 CCShad Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 15:26:14
As Max said, we're aware of Wones and Sak's offenses. They have both been reported and complained about by multiple players, and while we can't just say "hey people complained about your caps so yeah you're getting perm banned" (as caps is normally a short 10 - 20 mute depending on severity), I can assure you that both of them are being dealt with.The system we have for repeat chat offenders works like this: If a player continues right after getting muted, or continuously gets muted for the same reasons after being warned multiple times a month, their punishments will slowly become more severe. They'll start receiving less warnings before a punishment, and what would normally be a 15 minute mute becomes 30 minutes, and then an hour, and then a tempban for a couple hours, and then a tempban for a week, and then finally a perm ban. If they go a few months (3 - 4) without having to be warned or muted/tempbanned, their punishments will go back to normal. If the player were to start again months later their punishments would get more severe faster than before. Something like 15 minute mute > A second 15 minute mute > 1 hour mute > 7 day tempban > perm ban with fewer warnings between each punishment. This system is fair because it gives them a chance to stop. whether they're doing it on purpose to troll or it's really just in their personality to act like that, They're given a fair chance to reform. However if they never do improve a permanent ban is inevitable. Wones is already to a point where he'll receive a tempban for what would normally be a mute, and Sak already had his 7 day tempban. Feel free to report them to staff on the forums, in-game or on discord if you see them breaking rules while no staff are online, but you'll need stronger evidence. The screenshots that you posted here just shows them casually using caps. Saying a player's name in caps a single time or saying "WTFFF" isn't really violating the rules, as it isn't excessive caps. I said this is another post, but caps are fine if you only say a short sentence in caps once every like 10 minutes. It's only excessive when every other message you send is in caps, or you send a full 3 line long message in caps. |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 15:34:42
Ok. Thank you for explaining the system to me. It did seem as if nothing was being done. Thank you, for also proving me wrong. (If I can be proven wrong, then by all means: do it, just like you and Max did) |
 Karbs |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 19:32:23
It's actually extremely disheartening and disturbing to see someone so upset and invested in another player due to the fact that they capitalize three letters in a line and don't agree with other players. Most, if not all, of those pictures are completely baseless and are taken out of context. One the first screenshot you took you made the caption "excessive cap usage" - meaning that the player has completely and constantly abused caps in a short period of time. I am incapable of comprehending how your simple close-minded brain thought four words of caps somehow broke the rules and therefore deserved punishment. Do you really have nothing better to do in your life than get triggered over someone capitalizing four words on a block game? It seems that you're rather intentionally choosing to get irritated over such a small thing. To add, I realize Wones used more than four capitalized words in certain sentences, but as shad said, writing one fucking sentence in caps is not excessive usage. If he were to write three sentences in a row with full caps I could see how their may be an argument for your case, but one sentence in full capitals letter will not kill you kid. Secondly, you address a screenshot where Wones seems to have a certain view on the performance of the staff member SniffSnuff. You state in the caption that by having an antogonistic view towards the capabilities SniffSnuff as a staff member, somehow that is completely discrediting and disrespecting him. By even saying "disrespect of staff member", you imply by whatever reason that a member of staff is superior to any player on the server, and therefore deserves more respect than anyone else. Not only is this way of thinking idiotic, but it also shows how childish your argument is and that you have a heavily biased outlook on situations. You believe that staff are far superior than anyone else, and they have no flaws which cannot be pointed out by the players of the server. Also by your statement, to disrespect someone is simply just to oppose them, so by your own standards you have completely and utterly disrespected and humiliated Wones in this post. If to oppose is to disrespect, then anyone you have ever shared a different idea with you are disrespecting them. If this were to actually be true, no progress were to be made in society as everyone would seek to please and compliment one another, rather than share their true thoughts and offer constructive criticism. Wones has every right to not agree with the staffing methods of Sniff, and by calling him disrespectful for doing so is a breach of his freedom of speech and shows that your post is heavily biased towards one side.The rest of your evidence falls under the two categories I discussed above as he goes on to again call caps abuse on Wones for simply typing the word "LOL" in chat and afterwards saying he's disrespectful for saying that the complaints made on him by TastyDJ are useless(with the exception of when Wones says "ur mother" and somehow your low iq brain thought it would be good supporting evidence for your cause). I really lack any understanding how this post was even remotely taken seriously by staff members. I feel as if we are losing the integrity and character of the server as time progresses, this being especially evident after the reset. As staff respond to complaints by new players get triggered by the easiest things and would probably leave the server the week after anyways, we lose a certain sense of character this server has once upheld. The new staff leadership is driving the server away from its unique properties that made it so much different from any other semi-vanilla survival. Crude banter was widely popular when I started playing last year August, staff were extremely lenient and even took part in debates and fights, forum participation was high with the larger majority of the player base stopping by the forums at least once or every two weeks to make or reply to a post. Something took place after the server went into a fallout mode due to the bans of many community figures back in december/january. The new staff leadership is destroying the server's core characteristics by pushing it full steam ahead into some sort of safe space for little kids who get bullied at school. They're attempting to appeal to the general public by discouraging debates of certain topics and limiting players to express themselves freely. Sure, it may work in the short-run, but eventually when these new players are done building their little bases and getting geared up, they'll realize there's no real community, just people with superficial qualities constantly attempting to please each other. They'all leave and the server will become bare and desolate as it once was shortly ago. I really hope staff can really stop trying to suck everyone's dick and rather look at both perspectives than antagonizing one. |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 19:49:27
Thank you for taking time out of your day to post, Karbs, but the situation has already been seen and handled by staff. |
alpacafarm |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 20:47:36
Wones has literally done nothing wrong. The evidence of this complaint is so incredibly weak it’s ridiculous. The staff are a complete joke for buying into this, those screenshots prove absolutely nothing |
alpacafarm |
Date sent: 2018/08/15 20:55:43
You say wones is one of the main ppl who cuss, I counted 4 cuss words said by wones in those screenshots. The claims you made are no where near proved in those screenshots, the only one you have come close to is the caps, which imo only one of those screenshots are worth getting a warning. It honestly seems this post has nothing to with wones behavior but something you against him. His actions are completely within the server rules and if you dont like it, you have /ignore for a reason. you have 2 brain cells sorry sis |
ToppingRumble7 |
Date sent: 2018/08/16 04:37:44
You can believe what you want, Alpaca, and if I were the only one to think Wones is toxic, then I wouldn’t have made the post, because i’d Be the only one who thought that. But I’m not, so I posted. As stated before, this has already been handled, but thank you for posting your opinion. |
 galbby5 |
Date sent: 2018/08/16 17:10:42
This is possibly the most sad and pathetic complaint I've ever seen on Webbcraft. Do you truly think that just because Wones used caps on a few words, he should leave Mush? That's not called being reasonable, that's called being oversensitive. The screenshots prove nothing apart from the fact that wones gets worked up in alot of situations. If you think that Wones is toxic for capping three letters, then 99% of this server has been toxic. This complaint doesn't even deserve an audience from staff. The evidence is so incredibly nonexistent that I'm surprised you had the guts to even put it on here. Next time you accuse someone of toxicity, at least provide evidence of real toxicity. |
