Owner please take action against racist hate speech.

Author	Message
newyorksong	Date sent: 2020/01/21 04:24:36 I would like to see the owners Luigi and CC be more aggresive with shutting down this kind of hate speech. Whether the kids do it just to get a response or because they really do have racist tendencies it should be a 2 day ban immediate and a permban if repeated. Young 17 year olds love this kind of thing, I know ... I was one. We're tough guys, yeah. But as owners you have a responsibility to keep younger players from being titilated by this kind of ugliness. When Anto says "The retard, jew boy I'm Jewish and that's not okay. It is not fun to see this, and it gets in the way of gameplay. Please guys take some more appropriate action here, and make it clear this is not the way Muchco represents itself. A slap on the wrist is not enough here. Stopping this behavior is important. Racism in USA is out of control and we must not be a part of it. Here are some of the screenshots:
anglina123	Date sent: 2020/01/21 06:21:33 +1 I think the staff are kind of disconnected and inconsistent with their punishments, one will serve the correct punishment to any kind of racism/hate speech, others will just completely ignore it. P.S the map you're holding in the screenshots looks super awesome!
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2020/01/21 13:57:16 Understand where you're coming from, but my comments were definitely not the only "hateful" speech present during that situation. That entire argument was a shit show, but I agree we all should of been punished. If it makes you feel better, I and thomasjones952 were muted. I'm also pretty sure the people saying the N word were muted and I know at least one person was temporarily banned. Staff are two sided anyhow. The rules are only enforced as the select few see fit.
newyorksong	Date sent: 2020/01/22 00:22:47 Thanx for the response guys. I think CC and Luigi have to let all staff know that this should not be allowed in any way. It's just not cool! Some kids may also be really hurt by it. And how would we know?
Presinus	Date sent: 2020/01/22 13:11:17 Potentially offensive language: Autism Mentioned by many (myself included), is a very common (about 1 in 60 people have it) and harmless set of mental disorders. Affects 4x as many males as it does females. Anto and several others claim to have autism. Anto has clearly expressed willingness to make fun of it and let his friends do so, but the slightest joke of it from someone he dislikes will make him erupt. Retard Mentioned by Anto, refers to a slow person with SCT/SCD (Sluggish cognitive tempo / Sluggish cognitive disorder). I myself have been diagnosed with SCT, and it's nothing serious. Slut As mentioned by Minx, is a woman with many casual sexual partners, or a woman who doesn't clean themself. Jew As mentioned by Anto, can refer to culture, race, religion, or all 3. Aouldrain, Asriel, myself, newyorksong, and many others are (or at least are partially) jewish. Niger As seen in the title of the faction disbanded by Ellie, is a country in Saharan Africa that was once ruled by France. Nigeria is a country in Africa that was once ruled by Britain. Nigger A word popularized in the American south (didn't come from there though). Comes from the Spanish "negro," which means black, and comes from the Latin word "niger," meaning black. In my biased opinion, I'd say "hate" is more when you pry at someone's personal issues that could be / could have been life-threatening or permanently damaging, like making fun of the body image of a person with deformities from severe childhood malnutrition or making fun of someone with a cystic brain tumour with mass effect. You mentioned racism in USA, but I don't quite get how that's relevant. -The server host is British (all that determines is the laws your server has to abide by + how good your connection is to the server depending on where in the world you connect by) -The server owner (who prefers drama and money over ethics) is Aussie -The acting owner (who actually works to prevent this kinda stuff) wasn't online, but he's American. -Anto (the acclaimed racist hate speaker) is Irish
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2020/01/22 14:10:16 Just because Autism is "very common" doesn't mean it's harmless. No mental disorder is truly harmless, considering that most can only be diagnosed if they affect day-to-day life, in a harmless or dysfunctional manner. My friends can joke with me about Autism all they like - it's when people who are definitely not my friends, like you Pres, that I have a problem with. I haven't mentioned your condition in months nor have I interacted with you in that affect. You decided to get involved on your own accord, and therefore reaped the consequences. I'm not saying what I said was right; no one in this entire situation has been. I do, however, agree that "hate speech" should be clamped down on. Whether that is simple jokes about Autism or full-on attacks on a persons faith or character. I do agree with Pres, however. Racism in the USA has nothing to do with this. I'm not American and a lot of players aren't American. Perhaps we all should just stop taking this game so seriously. It is a game after all and, in the new update, Mojang even state when you log onto multiplayer that the "game is not rated". Therefore, expect the unexpected; you're going to get your feelings hurt. (And I'm not just targeting others, I'm taking my own advice on that one.) That being said, if anyone talks about eating and sniffing a girls tampons, you're just straight up weird and deserve to be shunned into a well and forgotten about.
belgnbor	Date sent: 2020/01/23 07:40:23 This was the top reason I left this server for so long. The lack of the staff doing anything about racist, sexist, bullying etc comments. Chat was so toxic. Its not as bad as it was for now, but staff need to be on top of things and be consistent. Just because it doesn't offend you, does not mean it doesn't offend someone else or just because your culture accepts a word does not mean its an accepted word in another culture. And no, its not up to those getting hurt to "toughen up", it just means you are a bully.
Presinus	Date sent: 2020/01/23 23:28:18 I never said being very common means it's harmless. You confirmed your biased reaction but left no reason/justification. Sounds like you don't actually care and just put on a scene to make people feel bad for you. If it's hate, then it should cause a negative reaction regardless of who says it. "I haven't mentioned your condition in months" is untrue, as you mentioned it on the 16th day of January. Atop this, I said "This chat is autism" which was aimless, indirect, and a general throwaway comment. Responding to this, you brought up my cystic brain tumour, which could be potentially fatal or permanently damaging with no desirable effects, whilst autism is seen as a desirable trait in some lines of work, with employers often actively searching for autistic people to fill the position. On the topic of banning hate speech, that's the "dont be toxic" rule, which got pretty out of hand when it nearly killed the server as staff banned and muted everyone for toxicity. I personally think it'd be nice and all, but the chance of it being abused and misinterpreted is way too high, and could make the server less enjoyable than it currently is. Personal attacks certainly should go, but anything past that just makes talking in chat feel like walking on eggshells.
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2020/01/24 12:50:00 I put on a "scene" because I'm sick of staff being one-sided. Whether or not it was a "throwaway" line, it still can be considered harmful or toxic. What I caused a "scene" over was you, and minx, talking about sniffing, eating etc a girls used tampons, and staffs inability to react. The hypocrisy of the staff team is unparalleled. All of them are in a tight-knit community, and anyone that brown-noses them immediately becomes favorite. Why do I think this? Because the moderator that failed to act, Aouldrain, is in Petrograd. Minx is in petrograd. You're in petrograd, pres. You're all obviously a group of friends that were trying to get a reaction out of me. I'll take the L, I'm a bully. Not a nice person. But letting people talk about eating used tampons despite previous warnings is disgusting.
Presinus	Date sent: 2020/01/24 18:31:17 Idk about previous warnings, I just know I mentioned autism and you spontaniously combusted, brought up my brain tumour as if it's somehow on the same level as a throwaway comment mentioning autism, you then said "the retard" (a reference to SCT/SCD, which I have), "the jew" (I had mentioned being of Jewish descent days prior), and "the tampon eater are taking shit" which I figured was just an irrelevant throwaway insult to make your statement appear less direct. With that random throwaway insult, I fired back with another throwaway insult, keeping with the theme of your own. Of course I felt the need to make it more personal so we were on equal grounds, and I made it about your gf (but not actually gf because it's complicated? Like, share, and subscribe to show your support!) where she then got online and started ranting about how she is crying and shidding n farding and blocking all the meanieheads because her bf (but not bf, it's really complicated and I need more likes and shares and nice comments to make it better) said something about eating tampons and they figured it was so stupid they'd just agree. Hypocrisy within the staff team is only unparalleled because you're too far up there for them to catch up ;) Whats your deal with tampons anyway? Is that actually a common problem in Ireland or was it just some random shite I logged on too late to understand the context of?
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2020/01/24 19:02:24 1. I never heard of you being Jewish, that was directed towards Aouldrain. 2. What's with all this bullshit about Mia and I being together? You're obviously trying to draw me out again. 3. The tampon comment wasn't even towards you. It was towards Minx. Perhaps you're just too slow to understand. Why are you going after Mia now? She hasn't even inputted herself into this conversation. I'm not going to continue to argue with you, but if you'd like to keep it up I'm sure your carer wouldn't mind.
Presinus	Date sent: 2020/01/24 19:32:09 Re-1. Fair enough, my mistake. Re-2. Because you two share a mind, and you two love attention, and I'm calling you on not actually caring about points presented, but more just want attention. Re-3. "The tampon comment wasn't even towards you." I realize that now, though I hadn't read anything in chat mentioning tampons up until then, and was clueless of the context, only knowing the 2 previous keywords applied to myself. "Perhaps you're just too slow to understand." Another reference to cognitive sluggishness. Real slick. Re- Closing statement. "if you'd like to keep it up I'm sure your carer wouldn't mind."
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2020/01/24 19:52:06 The more you make fun of my friends, the more I make fun of you. Mia doesn't crave attention - she's sick of being constantly bullied by both the staff team and other players.

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